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. at the table today, dan gross, tracy meres, law professor at yale university. thanks to all of you for being here. >> thank you. >> i want to start with you in part because i tell this story, a story that i think has been lost even though it's recent history. i worry as we enter into the new conversation about guns and the possibility of getting common sense gun legislation that we will miss this has not always been a partisan issue and hasn't been id logically marketed. what do we learn from this history? >> history is long standing. it goes back far beyond the black panthers. during the fugitive slave law resistan resistance, frederick douglas resisted slave catchers. we see it moving up through the 1960s. your point about the black panthers is interesting. it's a stage where in my scholarship i have described at the dichotomy. the leadership and grass roots made a distinction. they thought it was a crucial resource for black folks. up to the point of the radical resistance of the black panthers, that dichotomy was vividly upheld. the panthers sullied that process. the book i'm working on
a matter of minutes ago actually dan pfeiffer, one of the top aides to the t president put out a note that politico breaux this morning where they said that house republicans were considering, among other things, default or possibly a government shutdown. some of the dramatic steps that the republicans of the house are considering. pfeiffer referred to that specifically today saying just another reason -- just one more way that house republicans could make themselves even less popular than they already are right now. we have a pretty good sense of what we're going to hear the president say when it comes to the debt ceiling and fiscal issues. jay carney sort of telegraphed these statements during the briefings last week, the last one was on wednesday where he said, and i pulled up the notes to get it right. he said there are only two options to deal with the debt limit. congress can pay its bill or fail to act and put the nation into default. the line in the sand was clearly drawn during those news conferences with the press secretary jay carney last week. and the president is going to
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